that is the energy tax. which, of course, the treasury department -- carvin in e-mails several thousand times -- with arbon in their e-mails 7000 times perry are the typing it out on carbon vapor? they -- you cannot turn the united states into a european social welfare system with the income tax. it can't be done. rates have to be too high. people will not pay it. and you have all the problems that carter had with the same challenges. double taxing savings and investment and business income just gets to be too heavy a burden. every major country that introduced the vat, it stayed in. we are now looking at the entry point for the vat is energy tax and when asked about it the obama people say if the republicans were to recommend we would be all over it. the guy who promised he would not raise taxes on the middle income sank if somebody else touches the murder weapon first he would be right there. he is for looting the middle class. he just wants republican fingerprints on the process. so, either we let -- we w